Package List Discussion

[Michael Cronenworth]

Matthias Clasen wrote:
> fcoe-utils
 > lldpad

These seem more aimed at the Server product. Sure, anaconda pulls these in for 
installation support, but do you expect the WS product to be installed on such a 
crazy network? Could anaconda make these optional?

> NetworkManager-pptp
> NetworkManager-pptp-gnome
> ppp
> pptp

Do networks that use PPTP still exist? I hope not. We shouldn't encourage 
unsecure connection types.

 > iscsi-initiator-utils
 > iscsi-initiator-utils-iscsiuio
> radvd

I see libvirt (and anaconda for iSCSI) requires these and it's unfortunate. All 
you're missing is dhcpd/bind and the WS product is basically the Server product.

Is virtualization important to have in the base product package list? Not every 
developer uses the same virt software. Virt software is more of an "add-on" in 
that the WS product's goal of being a foundation for building Fedora/Linux 
applications isn't met by including libvirt by default. Yes, it's nice to test 
applications and yes, I use visualization myself (not libvirt), but my concern 
still stands. Perhaps this could be handled by the developer assistant.

Would it be appropriate to include "devhelp" in the package list? We're not 
shipping GTK/Qt docs, but should we?

Out of the box the WS product cannot produce an application. RPMs cannot be 
built (rpm-build, mock?). There is no C compiler. What about "-devel" packages? 
(too heavy for download, USB, DVD?) Is this what the "Developer assistant" 
application will deal with?