Call for agenda for Workstation WG meeting 2015-Aug-05

[Matthew Miller]

On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 11:35:40AM -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > > It's important for workstation, because:
> > > - we can deploy the same applications we do on workstation
> > Can you expand on that point?
> It's a useful form factor to create kiosk type applications, at least, and

I don't see kiosks as a target in
<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Workstation_PRD#Target_Audience>
(nor do I think it should be).


> because it's a SoC, it's a sign of things to come, in terms of
> hardware, for the whole of the x86 platform:
> - MMC/SDIO connected devices
> - GPIO connected devices
> - MIPI webcams

But surely these 32-bit tablets aren't the only good place where these
things can be worked on?


> > > - they're an inexpensive way to get touchscreens, and sensors in
> > >   the hands of our users and developers
> > Moderately useful, but is it a priority _over_ everything else here?
> We need touchscreen support because that's where laptops are heading.
> We need sensor support, because we want to be able to use those
> sensors to make power savings, and make the devices more useful in
> general.

I don't disagree. But I'm not at all convinced that this is really the
best way to get it. To put it another way, it may *appear* to be an
inexpensive way, but there are significant _other_ costs (hence this
whole thread).


> > > - Fedlet can't support Secure Boot
> > I think it can; it's just more of a pain. Someone would need to pay
> > $99, once. And if Fedlet used the stock Fedora kernel, it would just
> > work, right?
> No, because the 32-bit bootloader isn't signed, because we don't support
> booting a 32-bit OS with a 32-bit UEFI. If we had EFI mixed support, we'd
> sign the 32-bit shim and grub and boot the 64-bit kernel (already signed).
> 
> So, I wish we could prioritise getting EFI mixed support working, so
> that the only 2 packages we need to ship as i686 packages are grub
> and shim.

^ Example expense. Why prioritize that over other things, when we can
just get different devel hardware instead?

-- 
Matthew Miller
<mattdm at fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader