Let's reconsider some more applications installed by default

[Chris Murphy]

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro at gnome.org> wrote:
> From the latest revision of our PRD [1]:
>
> "Fedora Workstation follows the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines. These
> guidelines are mandatory for applications installed by default."
>
> Currently we have applications that clearly do not follow these
> guidelines. Unless we plan to revisit this section of the PRD, we
> should remove them, or set a deadline for them to be improved.
>
> * Devassistant. Needs an app menu, plus a serious sit-down with the
> GNOME designers. We want to make it easy to develop apps for Fedora,
> but not at the cost of leaving a bad quality impression.

I'd let it slide for Fedora 24 but no longer.


>
> * Evolution: Needs a major redesign that is not going to happen. Geary
> is not yet a suitable replacement. Options: (1) Not install any email
> client, because most users will use webmail; we can feature Evolution
> in GNOME Software. (2) If we want to keep Evolution installed by
> default, it's time to require the maintainers to add an app menu.

For Fedora 24, require 2 and if that doesn't happen then 1.


> * Firefox. I see two options here: (1) replace it with Epiphany (FWIW,
> I think Epiphany has matured enough recently for this to be reasonable,
> but I am biased ;) (2) enable the GNOME extensions, mandate that they
> be updated in tandem with updates to Firefox in Fedora, and patch in an
> application menu. The extensions are good, and Mozilla is a reasonable
> upstream we can work with to get permission for this. The status quo
> should not be an option.

Assess the new and on-going work for 2, and if that's sane then go
with that, otherwise 1. I'm on the fence on time frame, Fedora 24
might be reasonable, Fedora 25 might be more practical especially for
2.


>
> * setroubleshoot. This app is completely hopeless. SELinux issues are
> sufficiently rare nowadays that we simply do not need this anymore,
> although it would be ideal for ABRT to detect the issues and handle bug
> reports.

Bye bye.


>
> * Shotwell. Eventually we can replace it with GNOME Photos, but in the
> meantime, users can just install a photo management app if they want
> one. Also, I suspect Shotwell sends your password to Facebook without
> verifying its TLS certificate....

That's bad. It either needs to be fixed or it needs to come with a
warning if not outright removed from the repo. Exposing people's
Facebook credentials is not OK. So all you have to do to be vulnerable
to this is use Shotwell with a network you can't vet or control or
trust.


>
> * Transmission. Its only significant legal use is to download our
> competitor's products (Linux ISOs), hardly something we need to
> encourage. It's featured in GNOME Software already.

R.I.P. Transmission.


-- 
Chris Murphy