Windows Dual Boot, with Secure Boot, release criteria

Bastien Nocera bnocera at
Thu Jan 15 23:12:25 UTC 2015

----- Original Message -----
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:13 AM, Chris Murphy <lists at>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Windows failing to boot from grub with secure boot enabled is a different
> > > story. If users can pick Windows in their firmware's boot device menu
> > and it
> > > boots and grub is simply failing to chainload it, then it's much less
> > > critical of an issue, so I'm not sure if it should be a blocker, but it's
> > > still a thing we probably want to work too, because it not working does
> > hurt
> > > the dual-boot user experience a bit.
> >
> > Some manufacturers are not enabling USB or the keyboard at firmware
> > initialization time in order to get faster boots. So it's not
> > guaranteed the user can get to the firmware's built-in boot manager.
> > In such a case, the user would need to boot Fedora (since they have no
> > choice), and then use efibootmgr to change the BootNext NVRAM variable
> > (or they can change BootOrder). So that'd need some better
> > documentation probably.
> >
> One idea that springs to mind is maybe having GNOME adding a "Reboot to
> Windows" option somewhere (if Windows is installed), and maybe a settings
> panel to select the default OS (I think OS X has something like this -
> correct me if I'm wrong).
> However, I don't know if this is actually possible (or worth the effort).

We don't have a boot loader that supports that[1] unfortunately. Grub support
kind of stalled:


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