criterion update: add "switch user" to Shutdown, reboot, logout

Josh Boyer jwboyer at
Fri Jan 30 16:59:01 UTC 2015

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Matthias Clasen <mclasen at> wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 09:37 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Kamil Paral <kparal at>
>> wrote:
>> > I proposed this criterion because history shows that the approach
>> > you mention (let's fix it with updates) didn't really work, at least
>> > for GNOME. So I'm trying something else, to make sure it gets the
>> > attention I believe it deserves. (We reached the same conclusion
>> > during our blocker bug review). It seems that people opinions on
>> > importance of this feature vary wildly, which is unfortunate. If we
>> > don't reach consensus, it can't be a criterion.
>> Extremely basic functionality of the desktop environment, like user
>> switching, is much more important than a bug with any individual
>> application. If we don't want to block on user switching, then it's
>> time to take a look at the existing blocker criteria and start some
>> significant trimming, since we currently block for less
>> important-issues. Do we want to have more quality criteria or fewer?
>> I'm of the opinion that we should have more if we want to expand the
>> audience of Fedora Workstation beyond those who are currently using
>> it. When deciding whether something is a blocker, I propose this
>> question: "If feature X doesn't work, would a reasonable user new to
>> Fedora switch back to his previous OS?" If there's a bug with GNOME
>> Calculator, probably not, but if user switching doesn't work and I
>> have multiple user accounts, then it's time to find a better distro.
> It is not really relevant if something is 'basic' or not. To decide
> whether to block on a bug, you should look at:
> 1) How many users are affected ?
> 2) How significantly is their use of the system affected ?
> 3) Is there an easy workaround ?
> In all of these, user switching is just not in the same league as logout
> or shutdown.
> Having more criteria is good if you have too many qa people who can't
> figure out how to spend their time.

I absolutely agree here.  Thanks for summing this up Matthias.  I was
having a hard time doing so.


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