plan: fix all remaining accessibility issues for gnome 3.18

drago01 drago01 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 23 07:30:06 UTC 2015


On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Pete Travis <lists at petetravis.com> wrote:
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> On Mar 22, 2015 6:53 PM, "kendell clark" <coffeekingms at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> hi all.
>> I'm writing in to let everyone on the desktop list know that I'm
>> intending to work with anyone here and with the gnome people to fix
>> all remaining accessibility issues for gnome 3.18. This currently
>> includes, unlabeled controlls, buttons and links, in various gnome
>> control center modules. Duplicate controlls in the power settings
>> module, duplicate buttons in gnome tweak tool. Gdm is inaccessible to
>> orca. Orca is unable to see the login screen so cannot navigate it's
>> controlls. This last one is exclusive to gnome 3.16, gnome 3.14 works
>> just fine. I plan to have all these issues ironed out in time for
>> gnome 3.18 and f23. I will file bugs, provide logs, anything that is
>> necessary. My plan is that by f23, there will be 0 (zero)
>> accessibility issues with orca and gnome shell. I would like to make
>> one possible request, not sure where this is applicable. Would it be
>> possible, as a temporary measure, to cause gdm to fall back to using x
>> for it's login screen when accessibility is enabled? I have no idea
>> how this can be done, but this would allow orca to again see the
>> screen and navigate it, until whatever is wrong in wayland can be
>> fixed up stream? If there are any people who work on gnome itself,
>> would you mind logging on to #fedora-accessibility, or I can log on to
>> #a11y on gnome's server to discuss issues? I don't want to flood the
>> list with accessibility traphic.
>> Thanks
>> Kendell clark
>> Sent from Fedora GNU/Linux
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> I'll throw out my vague understanding, in the hope that someone will
> validate or knock it down:
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> A big driver for moving to Wayland is the additional security context
> provided; one application, by design, cannot access another application
> through the interface to the display server.  I *think* that orca works
> *because* it is able to access other applications through Xorg.  So, based
> on this very basic understanding, I would expect that Orca would not work
> as-is on Wayland, and maybe would need a fundamental redesign to follow the
> migration away from X.
>
> GDM on F22 is a Wayland session by default, so it is isolated from other
> processes ie Orca.

https://wiki.gnome.org/Accessibility/Wayland


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