Tweak Tool in Workstation?

kendell clark coffeekingms at gmail.com
Wed May 13 21:32:52 UTC 2015


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hi
Unfortunately, gnome control center 3.16.2 did not fix the duplicate
controlls issue. Orca still sees two dim screen brightness controlls,
two blank screen controlls, etc. I'll file a bug
Thanks
Kendell clark
Sent from Sonar GNU/Linux


kendell clark wrote:
> hi There's a new gnome control center? Great. I don't think I have
> it yet, I'm still on  3.16.1 here, so I'll wait for an update and
> write back in with results. Thanks Kendell clark Sent from Fedora
> GNU/Linux
> 
> 
> Bastien Nocera wrote:
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>>> hi No problem. I can file a bug. Which component? maybe ...
>>> gnome shell, core component?
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>> gnome-shell.
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>>> I don't mind filing bugs. My main reason for the ... I don't
>>> know if it was a rant, was that I'm the *only*, or it feels
>>> that way anyway, person filing these bugs.
> 
>> You're certainly an early adopter amongst our orca users.
> 
>>> This isn't really gnome's fault, but accessibility is very 
>>> fragile. It breaks easily, and the reason why can be very 
>>> tricky.
> 
>> Yes, certainly. Which is one of the reasons why we made a11y 
>> switchable at run-time. In the olden days, you had to log out
>> and log in again when enabling an a11y feature.
> 
>> Which is why testing is invaluable.
> 
>>> On a positive note, I've been doing a lot of testing with
>>> gnome on wayland, and it's just as accessible as x11.
> 
>> Yay :)
> 
>>> The desktop isn't drawn, but that's a known bug already. What 
>>> about the duplicate controlls?
> 
>> That's usually missing metadata on the widgets, and easily
>> fixable through a couple of GtkBuilder lines.
> 
>>> I have no idea what's causing that. It happens primarily in 
>>> gnome's control center, in almost every module,
> 
>> Aren't most of those fixed? Rui released a new 3.16 
>> gnome-control-center yesterday, and we're backporting those
>> fixes for GNOME 3.14 and Fedora 21 as well.
> 
>>> but also in gnome tweak tool. I don't think there are actually 
>>> duplicate controlls, just that orca is reading duplicates, for 
>>> some very odd reason. Can you point me to some a11y
>>> guidelines? It looks like I'll have to start nagging extension
>>> authors to read them.
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>> This is the main entry point: 
>> https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-how-
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t-works.html.en
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>> The guidelines are here: 
>> https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-codi
n
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>> 
g-guidelines.html.en
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>> Creating accessible custom widgets: 
>> https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-cust
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m.html.en
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>> and examples: 
>> https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-api-
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>> 
xamples.html.en
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>> HTH
> 
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