Significant drop in ABRT reports in F22

Bastien Nocera bnocera at redhat.com
Fri May 15 12:47:46 UTC 2015



----- Original Message -----
> Jiri Eischmann <eischmann at redhat.com> wrote:
> ...
> > I've noticed a significant drop in number of reports in Fedora 22.
> ...
> 
> Thanks for spotting this Jiri, I agree that it's something to address
> as a matter of urgency.
> 
> As you know, we did a review of the automatic reporting behaviour for
> F22. One goal here was to replace the automatic reporting dialog that
> pops up with the first error report - there needs to be a way to show
> the privacy policy and explain what automatic reporting means. The
> moment when a user is recovering from a crash is not a good time to do
> this.
> 
> So, the design for F22 was to have GNOME Initial Setup present
> information about automatic reporting, and prompt the user to enable
> it.

That was done:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744245

> Looking at the situation you describe, one issue could be that
> users aren't running through initial setup (which is supposed to
> switch automatic reporting on), because they have already configured
> their account using Anaconda.

This is also a problem for Location services.

> > With such a decrease in number of reports, ABRT is much less useful to
> > developers and I think we should fix it:
> >
> > * privacy settings should reflect my settings from ABRT after upgrade.

https://github.com/abrt/abrt/issues/966 was filed about that.

> > * settings in ABRT and Control Center should be in sync, I understand
> > that the Privacy is master settings overriding app's settings, but
> > there is only one app reporting and it's very confusing for users.
> 
> Agree with these two points.

As far as GNOME is concerned, the ABRT setting is deprecated.

> > * users should be asked if they want to enable automatic reporting
> > after the first crash like in the last.
> 
> This one I'm not sure about, for some of the reasons explained above.
> One alternative might be to ensure that initial setup always runs on
> the first login after upgrade, as a way to present the new privacy
> options.

We really should remove Anaconda's user creation for Workstation. This has
been discussed in other threads.

Cheers


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