Significant drop in ABRT reports in F22

[Christian Schaller]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bastien Nocera" <bnocera at redhat.com>
> To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop" <desktop at lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 8:47:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Significant drop in ABRT reports in F22
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Jiri Eischmann <eischmann at redhat.com> wrote:
> > ...
> > > I've noticed a significant drop in number of reports in Fedora 22.
> > ...
> > 
> > Thanks for spotting this Jiri, I agree that it's something to address
> > as a matter of urgency.
> > 
> > As you know, we did a review of the automatic reporting behaviour for
> > F22. One goal here was to replace the automatic reporting dialog that
> > pops up with the first error report - there needs to be a way to show
> > the privacy policy and explain what automatic reporting means. The
> > moment when a user is recovering from a crash is not a good time to do
> > this.
> > 
> > So, the design for F22 was to have GNOME Initial Setup present
> > information about automatic reporting, and prompt the user to enable
> > it.
> 
> That was done:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744245
> 
> > Looking at the situation you describe, one issue could be that
> > users aren't running through initial setup (which is supposed to
> > switch automatic reporting on), because they have already configured
> > their account using Anaconda.
> 
> This is also a problem for Location services.
> 
> > > With such a decrease in number of reports, ABRT is much less useful to
> > > developers and I think we should fix it:
> > >
> > > * privacy settings should reflect my settings from ABRT after upgrade.
> 
> https://github.com/abrt/abrt/issues/966 was filed about that.
> 
> > > * settings in ABRT and Control Center should be in sync, I understand
> > > that the Privacy is master settings overriding app's settings, but
> > > there is only one app reporting and it's very confusing for users.
> > 
> > Agree with these two points.
> 
> As far as GNOME is concerned, the ABRT setting is deprecated.
> 
> > > * users should be asked if they want to enable automatic reporting
> > > after the first crash like in the last.
> > 
> > This one I'm not sure about, for some of the reasons explained above.
> > One alternative might be to ensure that initial setup always runs on
> > the first login after upgrade, as a way to present the new privacy
> > options.
> 
> We really should remove Anaconda's user creation for Workstation. This has
> been discussed in other threads.

I spoke with David Cantrell about this yesterday, they are working in increased
modularity in Anaconda which they hope can be ready for FW23 (not guaranteed),
once this is in place hidding the user creation dialogs for the Workstation
should be easy.

Christian