Darktable Copr

Chris Murphy lists at colorremedies.com
Thu Sep 10 01:15:34 UTC 2015


On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro at gnome.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-09-09 at 18:33 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> However, it is unclear to me 1) what you mean by mandate, and 2) how
>> you plan on doing so at a Fedora Project level particularly when the
>> project has not committed to shipping any kind of xdg-app at all.  I
>> believe the desire and intentions are there, but mandate seems a bit
>> bold at this point.
>
> In the Workstation WG, there is consensus on moving towards
> distributing applications as xdg-app bundles. Applications will be
> required to bundle any library not provided by the xdg-app runtime. I
> don't think we have made any formal decisions regarding this, but it
> seems almost inevitable at this point. We also haven't defined what
> applications will be required to use xdg-app, but history tells us that
> if the answer isn't "almost everything," the project will fail. An
> optional application sandbox is a pointless application sandbox;
> developers aren't going to use it if it's optional, since that's more
> work for them.
>
>> Yes, Coprs are being used to provide useful software outside of the
>> Fedora repositories.  This is not surprising at all.  What would be
>> the good of building the Copr infrastructure if it wasn't used?  I
>> also don't think it is all that much of a problem either.
>
> I don't really understand what the end goal is with coprs, I suppose,
> and I'm not sure if the copr developers or anyone else does either.
> There's really no practical difference to the end user whether the
> application is in Fedora or a copr, so long as it appears in GNOME
> Software. But if the packaging guidelines can be circumvented simply by
> migrating applications to a copr, then applications are going to
> migrate to coprs. Eventually we're going to have a lot fewer
> applications in the Fedora repositories. This isn't necessarily a bad
> thing, but I don't really see why it's desirable....

Accepting all premises above, Copr end run around means application
sandboxing is pointless, and xdg-app will fail because it makes both
optional.

-- 
Chris Murphy


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