Fedora Core 2 wishlists

Stuart Children stuart at terminus.co.uk
Tue Dec 9 01:46:48 UTC 2003


Hmm. My other machine is grumpy and doesn't want to send mail at the 
moment. My apologies if this comes through more than once.

On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 19:25, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 11:43:48AM -0400, Robert Marcano wrote:
> > Make default applications configurable, for example instead of Mozilla
> > Web Browser, call it Web Browser and allows the user to change it
> > without messing around with the .desktop files

There was a story on OSNews today (doh, yesterday now - must go to 
bed)related to this, about MIME systems in GNOME. See
http://www.gnome.org/~jrb/files/mime/ and 
http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=5343

Having the GNOME menu (rather than an "open..." part of a context menu) 
reflect these settings in some way would be interesting. You couldperhaps 
have a menu item that expanded into "default web browser" and"other web 
browsers". You could remove/disable this item if you didn'tlike it. If it 
was installed/enabled then it could perhaps optionallyhide any other menu 
items for the applications it "provided".

So without it I have:
  .../Network/Mozilla
              Konqueror
              Links
              FTP
              ...

With it (and the hiding option off) I have:
  .../Network/Web browser
              Other web browsers/Konqueror
                                 Links
              Konqueror
              Links
              FTP

With it (and the hiding option on) I have:
  .../Network/Web browser
              Other web browsers/Konqueror
                                 Links
              FTP

Of course the "other" and "hiding" parts would only work forapplications 
that had been associated with "web browsing" - but that'sjust a case of 
packaging things right. The bigger problem is that thearticle above is 
about MIME types - not application types ("webbrowsers", "ftp clients", 
"MUAs" etc). It's too late for me to work outwhether one can draw a 
connection or whether the tie-in doesn't makesense. :) Also, I've no idea 
how the GNOME menu is implemented so thismay be impractical. Perhaps the 
RedHat author of the proposal above is reading and can comment.

[back on topic...]

> Certainly make epiphany the default web browser for gnome desktops so 
> the UI is consistent.

I would probably be in favour of this as default - despite normallybeing a 
Mozilla user myself.

>       -       Fix or drop apps that just dont work in FC1. If they dont
>               work and nobody fixed them then there isnt any point
>               continuing to ship them (eg the terminal server client)

Great - smaller CDs, less wasted time for RedHat employees so they canfix 
the things we do care about. Also even less of a big deal if...

>       -       Get the extras framework sorted and consign lots of the
>               old 'small userbase pet program' stuff to it (eg joe)

... this happens - which is my #1 priority wish. I feel there is 
someconfusion over it, plus I'm getting bored of pointing people at 
theright repositories when it could all be there from the start. Plus, 
thesooner it's sorted the sooner I'm going to spend my time scratching 
myown package itches and also helping out on others.

>       -       Font coverage for missing fonts where possible

Would certainly be good.

My #2 priority wish is a 2.6 kernel. I would much rather than this 
thanGNOME 2.6. I also think it would make more sense. Release FC2 with a 
2.6kernel ASAP. Do not ship it with a 2.4 kernel. Keep FC1 updated 
longerthan you would normally for Fedora after a new release (though this 
maynot be as longer overall if the new release is early). That way 
peoplewho need/want to can hold back and not upgrade so soon. FC3 then 
gets aby then stable GNOME 2.6, and a more fully tested 2.6 kernel. 
Ifpossible, release FC3 as soon as (or just before) RedHat's support 
forFC1 goes away. This is kind of stretching (OK, it's breaking) 
RedHat'srelease plans for Fedora - but I believe it would be worth it in 
thiscase. One downside is that it gives the wrong impression by 
indicatingit's not really a policy and leaves you open to being asked to 
do thesame again in future. On the other hand, this time of flux is 
probablythe best time to bend rules. :)

My smaller wishes have already been mentioned further down the thread,or 
(even better) appearing in RawHide/testing updates for FC1.

Cheers

-- 
Stuart





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