Fedora Extras (was Re: RPM tools)

[Jeff Pitman]

On Monday 20 December 2004 15:49, seth vidal wrote:
> cool?

It's cool. Congrats to you and others going through all the politics to 
get this stuff through the pipe.  Obviously, it's a long time coming.  
Coming from a corp of around 3000 people and personally pushing several 
process changing initiatives, I know the timeframes and what it takes 
for things of this magnitude to happen.

I know you're not Redhat.  But, you're still very much in the know.

I don't want to debate, but rather work on helping on the technical 
details. That's why I recommended a specific project centered around 
the build system.

I think the endless thread opened up as the result of Extras lacking in 
clearly defined objectives.  Is it only FCX and FCX-1?  Or does the 
infra provide support to others?  Is it an endless pit of packages or 
is it moderated by Redhat? Etc. I'm certain these will be eventually 
resolved, but in the interim I wouldn't entirely discount these 
discussions as "needing to die" because they are healthy to talk about.  
Since they're coming from packagers that are being asked to join in to 
participate.

Lastly, remember that we're volunteers.  Well, those of us 
non- at redhat.com'ers anyway.  We want to help.  That's why we're still 
here (the weenies left last year).  If we sometimes come out with 
Clueless Idiot emails, I hope that that in itself will be a clue as to 
the lack of information out there.

Thanks for your answers, your blog, your yum, your info, your input.  It 
definitely allows us to gain insight into the process and allows me to 
say, yeah I'd like to dive in and help.

take care,
-- 
-jeff