Various Fedora Extra changes (mailing list?), plus is APT now deprecated? (various responses)

[Kyrre Ness Sjobak]

søn, 21.11.2004 kl. 19.12 skrev Andreas:
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 05:05:22PM +0000, Michael A. Peters wrote:
> > Additionally, since yum was written for rpm rather than ported to rpm,  
> > it's code base is much smaller.
> 
> I call that short sighted :)
> 
> > While it may not be true anymore, Apt use to do things kind of dirty -  
> > using its own dependency resolution and telling rpm to ignore its  
> > dependency resolution, thus yum was better integrated with rpm.
> 
> Emphasis on *was*. apt-rpm doesn't do that anymore for a long time now.
> 
> > Also - and you *may* be able to do this with apt, but I don't think so,  
> > want to install a group of packages you forgot to select at CD install  
> > time?
> > 
> > yum grouplist
> 
> That is totally distro-dependent. No need to have the package tool to implement
> this separately. Just use meta-packages.
> 
> For example: apt-get install task-profile-sambaserver
> 
> Where task-profile-sambaserver is a simple rpm package with no files whatsoever
> which exists just to pull in the right dependencies.
> 
> > That will show what is available.
> 
> apt-cache search task-profile
> 
> > yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)"
> > 
> > That will install the KDE Desktop Environment
> 
> apt-get install task-kde
> 
> > yum is really nice - and the current metadata yum has improved in speed  
> > signifigantly.
> 
> I'm sure it is, and believe me when I say I'm not trying to tell you that
> apt is better or worse: I'm just showing how the things you said are done
> in the apt-rpm world.
> 
> BTW, why doesn't yum stop when I hit CTRL-C to abort an update in progress?

It stops download on *that* mirror - and switches to the next one. Just
keep pressin'g control+c and wait. i *WILL* stop... Eventually...