No more right click terminal

Shahms King shahms at
Wed Jul 13 20:06:18 UTC 2005

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Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
| Le mercredi 13 juillet 2005 à 09:39 -0700, Per Bjornsson a écrit :
|>On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 12:17 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
|>>It's interesting to read people claim there is absolutely no problem,
|>>experience will be enhanced by a simpler desktop, when (for example) at
|>>the same time Gnome browsers sink into obscurity and are replaced by
|>>Seems actual "basic" users would rather cope with the warts of a
|>>non-native app than experience the full Gnome simplicity.
|>I think that this is about the worst example you could possibly have
|>chosen to go with.
| Not at all.
| For Mozilla people Firefox is simple.
| But compared to Galeon or Epiphany - it's a very complex UI.
| In fact if Gnome people took over Firefox today they'd be busily
| removing scores of features.

Compared to Epiphany, perhaps, but certainly not Galeon.  Epiphany's
goal was to make a simple UI, Galeon's was to cram everything under the
sun into a GNOME interface.

For a little history:

Firefox is to Mozilla what
Epiphany is to Galeon.

Both Epiphany and Galeon lost their relevancy when Firefox and Mozilla
started integrating into the GNOME desktop.  There are still some warts,
but most stuff just works.  Firefox is now and always has been "Mozilla
simplified".  They took out UI for a lot of things, relegated more
things to extensions and just plain removed features from Mozilla.  The
funny thing is, more people use Firefox than Mozilla these days
"despite" its simplified UI.

In fact, apart from the many Firefox extensions I have installed, the
Firefox and Epiphany UIs are almost identical in terms of layout and
functionality.  Your argument is specious at best and your analogy
faulty.  If you don't like the general trend of simplifying the user
interface, that's one thing, but it's definitely not a GNOME-only trend
and certainly isn't going to stop.

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Shahms E. King <shahms at>
Multnomah ESD

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