No more right click terminal

Andy Green andy at warmcat.com
Fri Jul 15 15:29:04 UTC 2005


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Jeff Spaleta wrote:

| impact of your opinions and arguments... continue to discuss them
| downstream.  I can't fathom why someone would choose to minimize
| rather than maximize their impact with regard to an issue they care
| enough about to spend time commenting on in a mailinglist.

I can answer this.  By installing Fedora people are asserting a choice
in "downstream" terms.  They understand that RHAT has some flexibility
in terms of overrides (patches) of upstream providers.  Therefore it
makes more sense to them to try to get the relatively familiar RHAT
buy-in of what they want than to do battle in the completely unfamilar
upstream microclimate.  Naturally I see your point too, but I also see
bearded fundamentalists in the Gnome world.

Although I don't use Gnome as a desktop, I use enough Gnome apps to be
constantly reminded of the ineffective choices (Ctrl-L... if you can
magically find out about it -- it's not on the dialog -- then make
coffee while it tries to populate /usr/bin) foisted on folks via File
Open dialogs for example.  It seems to me there is a genuine problem
with the trend of Gnome development and the use of changing defaults to
try to program their users. They could be more modest and provide
compatability with conventional expectations as the default, and a
simple choice into the new methods.  If the new methods rock, they will
be taken up by word of mouth and become default by demand.

| If you'd like to discuss more ideas for fedora marketting taglines,
| there is a mailinglist dedicated for fedora marketting.

Well despite taking your point that upstream has more power over the
direction of upstream, some care needs to be taken not to blow off
genuine observations.  The power of RHAT to patch its desires into
reality is real, as we see in the kernel.

- -Andy
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