No more right click terminal

[Horst von Brand]

Daniel Roesen <dr at cluenet.de> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 08:36:50AM -0400, Dimi Paun wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 08:11 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> > > Debating the worth of any particular study,
> > > here.. is pointless..
> > 
> > Very smart. It seems that _anything_ is pointless to discuss here.

> Indeed. It's still all "what Red Hat likes", and screw the rest. At
> least that's my (oh, not really only mine) impression.

Can't speak for the rest here, please.

> Just look at what random stuff is thrown into core by Red Hat folks,
> whereas outsiders with really useful additions are sent off to Extras.

Could you be more specific? Just whining about "junk in core" and "useful
stuff left out" doesn't help a bit.

[...]

> The "we follow upstream!" mantra is also only followed when it's
> fitting.

Again, please be specific.

>          If the Fedora heads like a change, it gets done (see all the
> custom patches that regularily pop up in packages),

Fixing real bugs and/or patches that are pending upstream, as far as I have
seen up to here.

>                                                     and if outsiders
> request changes that Fedora heads don't like, we'll hear a "shut up and
> go upstream, we follow upstream, basta".

If you don't like it, fork ahead. Nobody is forcing you to use vanilla
Fedora, is there?

[...]

> The terminal launch option now disappearing completely out of immediate
> reach is a major blow, once again. I really wonder where this is
> heading. The last really usable desktop for me was GNOME/Enlightenment
> in RH 6.2 (and 7.x, but I had that only at work place and dunno how much
> effort the IT folks there had put into making it work). Later on, things
> got dumbed down more and more. Now we are at metacity (I call it
> mediocracy) and people still keep on removing features etc. I wonder
> when will install twm or fvwm again as "powerful, feature-rich"
> replacement for the hello_world that metacity is. Sigh.

You can try KDE, or XFCE. Or go for outsider window managers.

[...]

> Don't get me wrong. I cannot complain - it all comes for free, I greatly
> respect that and am grateful for the chance to run an OS which mostly
> fits my needs for zarro bucks and the source comes with it too so I can
> fiddle with it if I REALLY need to. It just sucks to always here the
> fairy tale of the "community" distro Fedora is supposed to be, and all
> I can see is quite the contrary (except of course if it comes to offload
> the boring stuff like maintaining older releases [Fedora Legacy],
> betatesting new random stuff put into Core etc.).

Sorry, I don't understand you at all. You'd have to be much more specific
and constructive with your criticism, or you will just be *PLONK*ed left
and right.
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