suggestion: move all java packages to extras

[seth vidal]

On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 11:00 -0500, Dimi Paun wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 07:37 -0700, Tom Tromey wrote:
> > Are we targeting developers?  Corporate desktop users?  People who
> > travel a lot?  People setting up LAMP servers?  Some combination?
> 
> AFAICT, there's no particular group of users we target:
>   -- FC is mostly for home use
>   -- we want to make it useful for laptops
>   -- it is the base of RHEL
> 
> So it's clearly a combination. For Core to be relevant to people,
> it has to be useful out of the box. This rules out the absolute 
> minimal Core IMO.
> 
> In terms of what goes in, I would think that is should be packages
> that are useful to the majority of users in any one segment. This
> view would support having in Core apps as diverse as GIMP, Apache,
> JOnAS.
> 
> One important aspect that seems to be overlooked when we talk about
> applications included by default in Core is the message that it sends.
> Namely, "a lot of experienced people have looked at alternatives, and
> we think that this particular one is the one that's most appropriate
> for most people". In other words, we're giving certain applications
> more weight then others. 
> 
> By moving everything to extras, we lose this message, and that would be
> a step back for many people that don't have the time and experience to
> decide at every turn between the various options available out there.

and once you can install extras from w/i anaconda during the initial
install? How is that any different?

So we need to break things up intelligently based on groups, I think.

So that new users can select larger groups like 'graphic tools' or 'web
server'

-sv