some closure on the xorg updates issue
Adam Jackson
ajackson at redhat.com
Fri Aug 11 15:25:12 UTC 2006
Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> In short, it's a major change with only modest benefit, and a better
>> solution is coming soon.
>
> And what IS that "better solution"?
Parallel repositories that actually work and are easy for me to
maintain. Which rebuilding all of X for FC5 would not be, due to all
the fails-to-build-in-mock bugs fixed between then and now.
> IMHO, this sets a really bad precedent. Do we really want Fedora to become the
> next Debian Stable? Many users on the list have indicated they are running
> Fedora precisely because they want current software, not obsolete crap which
> happens to cooperate well with proprietary software, which as you say is not
> even supported. I must say I'm one of these people. For those who don't want
> version upgrades, there are plenty of other distros available (e.g. that U word
> everyone gets spammed with these days ;-) but there are others too).
If you ever find me unpleasantly bound by precedent, kindly thwap me.
> If I'm not mistaken, the new X.Org brings support for some Intel chipsets which
> are only currently supported by generic VESA drivers.
945 support is in xorg-x11-drv-i810 1.5.1, which is in updates-testing
currently. The new 965 chips only work in 1.6.4 and later, which I have
no intention of trying to backport to FC5.
> Do we really want their
> users to suffer because of NVidia? It could also help free some users from
> having to use proprietary drivers (think r300 improvements...). (If it had
> been out earlier, before the ATI driver got upgraded, it might even have FORCED
> some people to switch to r300, which could have either shown them how well it
> works already or helped getting it in shape, depending on how well it would
> have worked for them. But it's too late for that now.)
Let's make this crystal clear:
I do not care about ABI stability for out of tree drivers in Fedora.
Backporting all of 7.1 to FC5 is simply more work than it's worth.
- ajax
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