Anaconda based on yum in FC6 ??

[thingsmith at comcast.net]

A couple of things.  

I did not say that yum sucks.  In fact, I like yum.  Since I have learned how to do this I have set up my own private repository and am using a variant to do configuration management for my server farms. 

What I am commenting on is the assumption made in FC5 that every one by default is connected to broadband internet connections.   I would not like to see this assumption carried forward to FC6.   Internet access statistic do not support this as one that support that vast majority of users.  In fact, this does not even support the majority of the users. 

On the FC6 page,  one of the considerations is to have Anaconda back-ended by yum and I know that yum can only work to respository such as web sites or directories,  I am curious to understand how this modification will work. 

As for a specifc complaint,  my compliant is the basic assumption that every who installs FC  has  broadband access to the internet.  The information that I have seen show that in 2003 of the 105 M homes with internet access only 33 M had broadband.  

So beside my case where I do not have any external internet acces,  I have seen similar comments on the bug reports about people who only have dial-up having to do multiple yum configuration files to overcome the assumption.  

--
Harry Smith
thingsmith at comcast.net

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: dragoran <dragoran at feuerpokemon.de>
> Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> > On 6/27/06, Harry Smith <thingsmith at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>  I know that the change in to use yum to add or delete rpm in FC5 has 
> >> given
> >> me an opportunity to learn about the internals of yum.  (management 
> >> speak
> >> for a royal pain.)  The systems that I build and use do not have 
> >> access to
> >> the net even at dial-up rates.  (As FC5 point to RH5, I hope that 
> >> this is
> >> not one of the changes that RH is considering for v5. )
> >>
> >>  I would hate to think that  FC6 would not even install it was 
> >> isolated from
> >> the net.   In fact, I would hope serious discussion and consideration
> >> happening about reversing the thinking in FC5 for adding and removing
> >> packages.  This is a good example of on paper sounds good but fails in
> >> practice.  I like to be able to add and remove packages without being
> >> connected to the net or having to having to change between different yum
> >> configuration files.
> >
> > I think you have some rather basic misconceptions about the way yum
> > works. Yum doesn't require net access to function -- all repositories
> > can be just pointing at local resources, using file:///.
> >
> > Moreover,  "serious discussion and consideration" happens here all the
> > time, and you seem to be the first one to claim that it "sounds good
> > on paper but fails in practice." If you have specific problems with
> > the way yum package management works in offline mode, then please
> > bring them up namely. Saying "yum sucks" simply makes us regard you as
> > a troll (that's management speak for "troll").
> >
> > Regards,
> pirut does not have an option to install from cds/dvds which 
> system-conig-packages was able to, but this is a known issue
> 
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