F8 is getting *really* sysadmin-hostile

[John Poelstra]

Olivier Galibert said the following on 11/15/2007 08:01 AM Pacific Time:
> Bug #134886 is still there since fedora core 3 times.  It means that
> NetworkManager will happily shutdown the interfaces, ignore any
> settings you've put in anaconda and wipe out /etc/resolv.conf if you
> happen not to use dhcp.  Like in a lab, where desktops and servers
> tend not to wander around so much and dhcp is used only for laptops.
> 
> Fedora 8 adds another level to the fun:
> 
> - NetworkManager is started at gdm time.  Which means that your
>   anaconda settings are ignored (and the DNS settings *erased*) as soon
>   as the login interface appears.
> 
> - service network restart doesn't work, because NM detects it and
>   stomps all over it

first:
service NetworkManager stop

> - you can't just chkconfig NM out.  It looks like it's started by
>   gnome itself, or maybe hal, so one has to study their "my wheel is
>   better than your wheel" startup configuration.  Or maybe not.  Dunno
>   really.

chkconfig --del NetworkManager

> - if you try to yum remove it, you lose evolution,
>   krb5-auth-dialog, libpurple, nautilus-sendto and pidgin.
> 

I've been thinking the same thing...you also lose liferea and pidgin which seems totally silly too!

Which component(s) should a bug be filed against?

# yum remove NetworkManager

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Dependencies Resolved

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 Package                 Arch       Version          Repository        Size 
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Removing:
 NetworkManager          x86_64     1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8  installed         2.2 M
 NetworkManager          i386       1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8  installed         2.2 M
Removing for dependencies:
 NetworkManager-glib     i386       1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8  installed          98 k
 NetworkManager-glib     x86_64     1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8  installed         103 k
 NetworkManager-gnome    x86_64     1:0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8  installed         524 k
 NetworkManager-openvpn  i386       1:0.7.0-2.svn3047.fc8  installed         477 k
 NetworkManager-openvpn  x86_64     1:0.7.0-2.svn3047.fc8  installed         487 k
 NetworkManager-vpnc     x86_64     1:0.7.0-0.4.svn3030.fc8  installed         318 k
 NetworkManager-vpnc     i386       1:0.7.0-0.4.svn3030.fc8  installed         307 k
 libpurple               x86_64     2.2.2-1.fc8      installed          18 M
 liferea                 x86_64     1.2.23-5.fc8     installed         1.9 M
 nautilus-sendto         x86_64     0.12-3.fc8       installed         276 k
 pidgin                  x86_64     2.2.2-1.fc8      installed         2.2 M

Transaction Summary
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Install      0 Package(s)         
Update       0 Package(s)         
Remove      13 Package(s)         

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