[RFC] /var versus /srv
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
johannbg at hi.is
Fri Sep 21 14:54:36 UTC 2007
Farkas Levente wrote:
> seth vidal wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 10:29 -0400, Rob Crittenden wrote:
>>
>>> Matthew Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 09:19:43AM -0400, seth vidal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As a sysadmin /srv is a useful thing - it's what most sysadmins do
>>>>> anyway - create a top level path where they mount the large, local disks
>>>>> and put all their data. So they know on every system if they hit /etc
>>>>> and /srv with the backups they'll have what they should be worried
>>>>> about. All admins may not call it /srv but they do something like
>>>>> it: /fs, /local, /data, /srv
>>>>>
>>>>> it's all the same result.
>>>>>
>>>>> so while your argument for not using it in the distro is fine -the
>>>>> reality is that this is what is actually done by sysadmins all over the
>>>>> world.
>>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Seth.
>>>>
>>>> /var is transient data. There should be nothing there that needs backups.
>>>> And users shouldn't look there for files they might edit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Transient and not backed up? What about /var/mail, /var/spool/cron and
>>> /var/log?
>>>
>> - /var/log - shouldn't matter - it's being sent to centralized log hosts
>> which I've always had put files in /srv/logs
>> - /var/mail has no data - all your mail should be in your central mail
>> server and not in /var/mail but in another path /srv/mail or /srv/mqueue
>> often
>>
>> - /var/spool/cron doesn't have any files in it b/c users are not allowed
>> to add cron jobs except on highly specific systems. Moreover, if you're
>> adding root or system-controlled cron jobs they should go in /etc/cron.d
>> or in the /etc/cron.hourly, /etc/cron.daily, etc directories.
>>
>> never in /var/spool/cron and NEVER add by such a cumbersome tool as cron
>>
>
> i agree with you about /srv, but not with the above. do you have any
> system with real users? why don't you allow cron jobs for normal users???
>
>
Disagree with keeping /srv ( -1 :) )
All admins should be able to use the mkdir command to create the directory.
If it's not used by the System remove-it .....
Oh and by the way we allow all our user to run cron jobs....
Kv.
Johann B.
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IT Management.
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