Linux is not about choice [was Re: Fedora too cutting edge?]

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

On 09.01.2008 22:37, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Thorsten Leemhuis (fedora at leemhuis.info) said: 
>> So that leaves two choices:
>>
>> - we could have delayed juju until F8 (or even F9)
>> - we could have included juju in F7 (as we did) and made it optional
>> (either enabled or disabled by default)
>>
>> I think the latter is the better solution and a serious option for one
>> release.
> That way lies madness.

I suppose the users that ran into trouble would say the same about what
we did.

So both way lie madness here. Then I'm all for giving the users the
choice so they can work around something without to much trouble if they
run into problems with something new.

> Right now DRI/DRM breaks VT switch and suspend on my laptop. Should we
> ship two Intel drivers and two kernels until this is resolved? [...]

Bugs in a updated package are something totally different (everyone
tries to avoid them, but they happen, so we have to live with them) then
switching to a new completely firewire stack that doesn't support
everything yet what the old stack did.

Jesse said juju "was functional for the vast majority of uses" when we
shipped that; I doubt that, as the questions is saw in #fedora-de, the
"howto switch to the old firewire stack"-Howtos in the net and the mail
from Hans tell a different story.

Cu
knurd