KDE-SIG weekly report (10/2008)

Sebastian Vahl ml at deadbabylon.de
Tue Mar 4 19:43:47 UTC 2008


This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the 
topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply
 to this email or add it to the related meeting page.

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= Weekly KDE Summary =

Week: 10/2008

Time: 2008-03-04 16:00 UTC

Meeting page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2008-03-04

Meeting log: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2008-03-04?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora-kde-sig-2008-03-04.txt

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= Participants =

- KevinKofler 
- LukasTinkl 
- PavelShevchuk (stalwart) 
- SebastianVahl 
- ThanNgo

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= Agenda =

topics to discuss: 
- PolicyKit integration (#428212) 
- KDE 4.0.2 
- Packaging API docs 
- Getting KDE 4 to use kde-settings defaults 
- Latest live CD testing feedback 
- Using ON_DEV when claiming bugs because ASSIGNED is now used for a different 
purpose by the triage team 
- split out of khelpcenter from kdebase3 (#435133 and #435873) 

recent bugs: 
#435656: closing bluemarble causes desktop session to end 
#435956: yum update removes kdewebdev

= Summary =

o PolicyKit integration: 
- LukasTinkl started a discussion with WillStephenson on how to implement 
PolicyKit support 
- But for the time being no work has done. 
- We should consider a quick hack for getting PolicyKit working for the Beta 
- Full PolicyKit support seems to be implemented by upstream for KDE 4.1 

o KDE 4.0.2: 
- KDE 4.0.2 is already in rawhide, official release will be tomorrow. 
- The docs in kde-l10n are still broken. 
- 4.0.2 versions of kiconedit and kcoloredit were built today. 

o Packaging API docs: 
- Currently we're not building API docs at all. 
- We should package it as *-apidocs sub packages like in KDE 3. 
- They should be provided at least for kdelibs, maybe kdepimlibs and soprano. 
- For minor packages api.kde.org is the place to start (unless someone files a 
bug for including them). 

o Getting KDE 4 to use kde-settings defaults: 
- KDE4 doesn't use the kiosktool setup we use in kde-settings. 
- This is also affecting the "KDE Development Platform" provided for F7 and F8 
(eg. dolphin). 
- Short term solution: move the global configs back to $KDEDIR/share/config/ . 
- Long term solution: fix KDE 4 to recognize the kiosk settings (with/in 
upstream). 

o Latest live CD testing feedback: 
- SebastianVahl prepared an actual live image for internal testing before the 
Beta. 
- KevinKofler reported some problems when running the image in qemu which 
don't seem to appear when running it natively: 
- KOrganizer's reminder applet isn't docked to plasma's systray 
- nm-applet isn't starting or connecting 
- This is maybe related to a not started dbus-session. 
- The "next" button in the installer seems to not work sometimes. 
- Because gparted was removed from livecd-fedora-base-desktop.ks amarok is 
back on the live images. 

o Using ON_DEV when claiming bugs because ASSIGNED is now used for a different 
purpose by the triage team: 
- According to recent changes of the bug triage team we should use ON_DEV 
instead of ASSIGNED now. 
- Proposed workflow: the person who takes responsibility for that bug assigns 
it to himself and set it to ON_DEV. 

o Split out of khelpcenter from kdebase3: 
- KDE3 applications will work fine with KDE4's khelpcenter but will 
need /usr/share/services/khelpcenter.desktop. 
- The decision was to include this as a seperate source in kdebase-runtime and 
avoid a hard require for khelpcenter. 
- So any KDE3 application will need also kdebase-runtime for displaying the 
help (which will mainly affect non-KDE users). 
- This will also free up some space on the live images because kdebase3 isn't 
needed for one single file. 
- We should consider adding this to the release notes. 

recent bugs:
o Closing bluemarble causes desktop session to end: 
- The "3D Earth Desktop" applet kills the X-Server when using it without 
enabled OpenGL shaders support. 
- This is known upstream but nobody knows how to fix this. 
- Also the next release of extragear-plasma is not scheduled before KDE 4.1. 
- So bluemarble will be disabled for now. 

o yum update removes kdewebdev: 
- This is regarding to the multilib obsoletes hack introduced by the split 
into *-libs sub packages. 
- Because only kdewebdev requires kdewebdev-libs we will add a "Requires: 
kdewebdev" to kdewebdev-libs.

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= Next Meeting =

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2008-03-11

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= Links =

Buglist:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=428212
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435133
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435656
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435873
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435956
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