F8 kernel-

Chuck Ebbert cebbert at redhat.com
Mon Mar 10 21:47:31 UTC 2008

On 03/10/2008 04:46 PM, Andrew Farris wrote:
> Chuck Ebbert wrote:
>> On 03/09/2008 07:07 PM, David Boles wrote:
>>> Callum Lerwick wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 17:41 -0400, David Boles wrote:
>>>>> I don't think that "Aunt Tillie" should be using a bleeding edge Linux
>>>>> distribution such as Fedora provides. And if "Nephew Johnie" installs
>>>>> it
>>>>> for her and she has problems with it that she can not deal with
>>>>> herself I
>>>>> think it is "Nephew Johny's" fault for installing it for her. What do
>>>>> you
>>>>> think?
>>>> I think you missed the point that this is just as painful for Joe
>>>> Fedora
>>>> Developer and CS Major as it is Aunt Tillie.
>>> "just as painful?" Do you mean the error or that "Joe Fedora Developer"
>>> does not know enough to press a key and select the other kernel to
>>> boot? I
>>> have often wondered why Fedora chooses to hide the other kernel. Maybe
>>> "Aunt Tillie", with a little help, could see that 'kernel A' does not
>>> work. Hmm... so maybe I should try 'kernel B'.
>> The first thing I do after installing Fedora is remove the "hiddenmenu"
>> line in /etc/grub.conf... why _is_ that the default, anyway??
> Good question.  I think its a terrible idea to hide the menu, and I've
> posted to at least 5 forum questions where the user simply didn't
> realize pushing a button at the hidden menu would let them see their
> windows install... "omg Fedora install does not let me boot windows".
> A pretty menu, but at what cost?

Well the timeout should be changed to something reasonable like 5-10 seconds.

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