Summary of the 2008-03-11 Packaging Committee meeting

Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
Thu Mar 13 18:22:35 UTC 2008


Le jeudi 13 mars 2008 à 19:08 +0100, Ralf Corsepius a écrit :
> On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 18:47 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > Le jeudi 13 mars 2008 à 17:47 +0100, Ralf Corsepius a écrit :
> > > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 09:41 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > > > Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 01:25 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > > > >> One of the problems I have with "ban packages with unicode names" is 
> > > > >> that it doesn't consider what to do when a package name upstream is 
> > > > >> non-ASCii.
> > > > > Transliterate/translate them to ASCII.
> > > > >
> > > > This is a proposal I am strongly -1 to.
> > > 
> > > IMO, you are making fuzz about nothing. For most languages such native
> > > transliterations exist.
> > 
> > IMHO you are woefully unaware of the fuzziness of a transliteration
> > process.
> Manual transliteration?

There's no such thing as a standard automated transliteration, because
1. there are many transliteration standards (from script to script,
language to language, political regime to political regime)
2. they usually depend on word pronunciation (which is not the same as
word writing, even for so-called phonetic scripts)

Automated transliteration is about as safe as feeding a long multiclause
contract to babelfish and betting your future income on the result.
Natural language processing is hard. International natural language
processing is harder. And that's without considering that Names are the
quirk-est part of any language.

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot
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