FeaturePresto won't make beta freeze

Valent Turkovic valent.turkovic at gmail.com
Mon Mar 17 14:47:44 UTC 2008


On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 6:23 AM, dexter <dex.mbox at googlemail.com> wrote:
>  >  Well its a real sad state of affairs that the fedora decision makers can't see
>  >  the value in reducing everyones network footprint by default. I guess its
>  >  just not sexy enuff.
>
>
>  Speaking as a Board member.... presto is one of a multitude of things
>  that I would absolute love to find a way to help make happen faster.
>  But you have to understand that I don't exactly have resources at my
>  disposal that I can assign to the task of doing the heavy lifting to
>  get presto into place.. or anything for that matter.  Here's the hard
>  reality... one(if not the biggest) of the limiting factor for
>  everything the Fedora community is attempting to achieve is skilled
>  manpower.  And since at the Board level I've no way to 'hire'
>  day-laborers to help get things done when they run into a roadblock.
>  We have to be more creative in how we generate manpower... the right
>  manpower.  I have some ideas on that, but I'm not sure all of them
>  will work. But I'm trying to get my ducks in a row to attempt some of
>  them after the F9 release.
>
>  It's unfortunate that Jonathan wasn't able to take presto all the way
>  to an integrated feature.
>  But as a project we have to expect this to happen and we need to start
>  preparing for it.  Now that he's admited his limitations, its up to
>  the rest of the Fedora community to step in and take it the rest of
>  the way.  Every single person who invests their time and their talents
>  to Fedora is a decision maker.  We all decide what we work on as
>  individuals.  If we as a community want to see presto become
>  integrated, then we as a community need to be willing to step up and
>  lend a helping hand.
>
>  So here's the challenge.  I need people who are willing to make a
>  larger commitment to Fedora as part of wanting to see presto happen. I
>  need those people to step up and volunteer to some sort of
>  infrastructure apprenticeship.  I've no idea what that means exactly
>  at the moment, so it will be a sort of experiment.  But I do know that
>  I want candidates to step forward, and I'll be talking to
>  infrastructure about selecting one or two people from that group to
>  mentor.
>
>  I want this to be a somewhat competitive process.  The goal here isn't
>  to shove 20 people at infrastructure and bog down that group's work.
>  The goal here is to make an investment in one or two people that I
>  feel could make a larger impact inside Fedora if they were given a
>  modest amount of mentoring in a new area.
>
>  There are a lot of ideas floating around in terms of things to
>  integrate into our build system or our website offerings. We need to
>  find a way to build up the available manpower inside infrastructure to
>  integrate those items as each idea matures.
>
>  -jef

I have posted emails on opensuse mailing lists few weeks ago asking
their deltarpm devels it they can help fedora project in some way with
presto and deltarpm.

Valent.


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