Xorg 1.5 missed the train?

[Suren Karapetyan]

Horst H. von Brand wrote:
> Christopher Stone <chris.stone at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2008/5/20 Konrad Meyer <konrad at tylerc.org>:
> 
>>> As was brought up in a recent thread (of a similarly long and pointless
>>> nature), any Fedora user is free to work on getting support for
>>> whatever they want into Fedora proper, and popular vote has absolutely
>>> *nothing* to do with what actually gets included in Fedora. If you want
>>> something done, do it yourself. If you aren't satisfied by numerous
>>> explanations, find something that satisfies you more than Fedora. We
>>> love having more users, but repeated complaints from leeches are just
>>> annoying.
> 
>> I'm sure a repo will pop up with all the necessary rpms if nVidia
>> doesn't come out with drivers soon enough.
> 
> 
> Go ahead an put it up!
> 
>>                                            It is just frustrating
>> that it has to happen this way.  Such a small amount of effort to make
>> the distro user friendly for everyone,
> 
> It is *not* a small amount of effort. We are not just talking of
> recompile-old-X-packages-and-forget, it means an ongoing effort of bug
> handling, keeping other packages depending on the old API, ... Plus if this
> is done, it is quite probable that nVidia would /never/ see the point of
> upgrading their stuff ("Why bother? It works fine with the <nVidia specific
> set of packages>"?) And if such is kept up, it would snowball into an
> enormous job of keeping whatever backward compatibility dozens of random
> hardware and software pieces require. Better go for a long-time-stability
> distribution then (but then again, I just saw problems with an oldish
> distribution for which they can't get machines it runs on anymore...).
> 

Windows??? anyone??

>>                                        and yet we must stick to our
>> principles and screw the end user.
> 
> It is more like Fedora users are its users /because/ Fedora is bleeding
> edge, and of its principles; and that means breaking some eggs from time to
> time (if I may mix metaphors). If that doesn't apeal to you, you aren't the
> kind of user Fedora is aimed at. Can't please everyone, sorry about that.
> Just shop elsewhere.

+1

Stable (in the meaning of not-changing) and new sometimes arent't 
compatible.
If You want stable (read: slower-changing) try the Enterprise versions.
Or Debian (2.6.18 *is* stable but it lacks the new functionality added 
during last 1.5 years).

> 
>>                                    It doesn't make sense.
> 
> It makes perfect sense to me.
> 
> [Full disclosure: I'm an nVidia user myself, and 3d has /never/ worked
>  here (had enough grief with the binary driver that I gave up on it long
>  ago). But for my needs, the current nv driver is plenty enough. YMMV.]
>