starting Fedora Server SIG

[Seth Vidal]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Bill Nottingham wrote:

>
> How is NM-dispatcher a developer service? Similarly, nm-tool is
> at least quicker than 'ip addr ls ; ip route ls ; cat /etc/resolv.conf'.

and ifconfig -a works on multiple platforms, so it's the one that will 
win.


> As for resources... just to point out that NM (at least on my laptop)
> uses 2.5MB resident... pretty much exactly the same amount as the 5
> unused mingetty processes that many 'server' admins screamed needed to be
> kept always.


nm, dbus in particular:
dbus: 3M
NM: 17M here

that's 20M vs 9M total for all the gettys running here.

And I don't have to run the gettys, I'd have to run NM.

Look, for the desktop in particular NM makes a lot of sense, I am not 
arguing otherwise.

For the server it is a solution looking for a problem.

The reaction you're seeing is people who don't care about the desktop 
trying to figure out why desktop and/or developer oriented features are 
causing them to have to change their server deployment/config habits.

You can't tell me you're surprised by the pushback, Bill.

-sv