No dynamic groups in PackageKit : Solved

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

On 07.10.2008 17:09, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 09:16 +0200, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
>> I think this discussion is getting a little heated and it is not the 
>> most constructive, if you want something to change IMHO.
> Tim is spot on, 

Tim, Richard, many thanks for your great work! Much appreciated!

> and a good example of someone that does things properly
> rather than just ranting about how broken $something is.

Remember, we have a lot of skilled people here on the list -- not all of
them are programmers (disclaimer: I'm one of them), but nevertheless
they afaics do a lot of important work for Fedora (art, bugtracking,
getting things organized and dozens of other areas...); they of course
sometimes want to share there option on things that happen in area they
are normally not working -- I think that's a good think and you are IMHO
discouraging those people way to much with sentences like that.

> I really can't believe how rude some people are on this list.

I would not call it rude. Most if not all of us that participate in
discussions care of Fedora and want to see it improved. But the people
of course disagree about how that is done -- that sometimes lead to hot
discussions, just like two people that are married for a quite a while
(and what to stay married) sometimes have a heated conflict ;-)

And communicating by mail makes things a whole lot more complicated and
worse afaics, as that form of communication sometimes simply doesn't
work well -- especially if people are not very careful (and all of us
sometimes are not careful enough afaics).

   > [...]
>> I agree in there is some issues with the static groups currently in
>> pk.so i have made this proposal on the upstream packagekit list.
>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/packagekit/2008-September/003675.html
> And the end result is something like this:
> http://rhughes.fedorapeople.org/gpk-groups-comps.png

Looks great. BTW, is this targeted for 0.3.x or 0.4.x?.

But nevertheless please allow me to ask one thing: You said "Tri-state
checkboxes are a disaster" last month on this list. I don't doubt that.
But nevertheless they in Pirut make something possible that is (afaics
from the screenshot; it was not obvious where that code lives, otherwise 
I#d taken a closer look myself) not possible with PK: get a whole bunch 
of apps (e.g. get KDE with one click if you installed the Gnome spin) 
installed  or uninstalled by (de)selecting just one checkbox.

It IMHO would be nice to have such kind of function in PK as well. Is
that still there somewhere? Maybe something like the additional "Package
Collections" ( http://www.packagekit.org/img/gpk-application-search.png
; second entry on the left side) could still work together with the new 
scheme? Then users can select  the default set of a group there; most 
will not even notive that the  collection names are the same as the 
names for the package group.

   > [...]

CU
knurd