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Sun Oct 12 06:25:34 UTC 2008
On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 01:20 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Fri, 10.10.08 22:39, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kofler at chello.at) wrote:
> > > > If you want upstream to stop using libtool altogether, find a
> > > > suitable replacement and convince the Automake developers to use
> > > > it instead.
> > >
> > > Why the h8? He was speaking in the context of "the state of the
> > > art" and in my oh-so-humble opinion CMake is it. The whole of the
> > > Autotools stack is very much... not.
> > +1
> > The suggestion to convince the automake developers to use something
> > other than libtool is pointless, because automake should also go
> > away, it's at least as obsolete, buggy, unable to maintain backwards
> > compatibility, annoying, a massive time waster at build time and a
> > major PITA for developers to code with as libtool is. The whole
> > autotools stack sucks. It always did, we just didn't have anything
> > better. We now do, so why are people still using autotools?
> I actually like autotools.
> Oh, and I think that cmake is a big trainwreck.
I share this view. Cmake is imake in new clothes and suffers from the
same design flaws as imake did. It's only the limited set of
requirements being used by the limited set of use cases it's proponents
apply which lets them think "cmake is better".
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