[Fwd: Wikipidia - Goodbye Red Hat and Fedora]

[Ralf Corsepius]

On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 10:28 +0100, Christopher Brown wrote:
> 2008/10/11 Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 at freenet.de>:
> > On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 17:08 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> >> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 at freenet.de> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 16:53 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 at freenet.de> wrote:
> >> >> > On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 12:38 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> >> >> >> Dmitry Butskoy wrote:
> >> >> >> > Itamar - IspBrasil wrote:
> >> >> [snip]
> >> >> >> The fact that they switched to CentOS is *good* for Fedora.
> >> >> > I can not disagree more - To me, it's yet another evidence of Fedora
> >> >> > being on the loose.
> >> >>
> >> >> You're going to have to expound on that. I do not see Centos in any
> >> >> way as in competition with Fedora.
> >> > EPEL drains away resources from Fedora.
> >> >
> >> > If people were investing the time they (as I feel waste) on supporting
> >> > EPEL into Fedora, Fedora would be better.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Ok. Ralf.. if you hate Fedora
> > Absolutely not.
> >
> >> and all its projects so much, why do you
> >> fricking stay around. Every fricking thread its "Fedora has too much
> >> bueracracy. Fedora has a broken build system. EPEL steals resources..
> >> " What are you doing?
> > I am complaining about a _few_ people having run down a once fascinating
> > project, with the very same people closing their eyes in front this, of
> > what I consider to be an inconvenient truth.
> >
> > Wrt. EPEL, I have always had the same opinion on it, since the very
> > beginning.
> >
> >> >> Sure. With more devs, servers, time, etc.
> >> > ... less bureaucracy, less committees/less chiefs/more Indians,
> >> > different people, different strategies.
> >
> >> Then DO SOMETHING.
> > Sigh, I repeatedly have been trying to do something, but always the same
> > "Fedora chiefs" had machine-gunned almost each and every proposal.
> >
> > You know, you have been one of these - Do I really have to be more
> > direct?
> 
> No, you just have to be less of an ass. As a casual observer, all you
> seem to do is throw rocks.
Thanks for throwing rocks at a Fedora contributor who is maintaining
many packages in Fedora, whos had performed and contributed to many
reviews, who is actively involved into the FPC and is contributing to
many upstream projects.