uberpackager rename (was Re: The Big ACL Opening)
chris.stone at gmail.com
Mon Oct 20 15:43:49 UTC 2008
2008/10/20 Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger at gmail.com>
> David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 09:18 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> >> So I'm going to do this tomorrow or have to put it off until after
> >> change freeze.
> >> The name I personally favour is masterpackager since it evokes the
> >> apprentice, journeyman, master craftsman stages that seem most like what
> >> we're modeling here.
> >> I know this isn't as flamboyant as ultrapackager, superpackager, etc but
> >> can everyone live with this?
> > No, I'm offended by the idea that a common root used in many geek words
> > can so easily be declared 'unclean' and eradicated. This is political
> > correctness at its worst, and I find it horrifically offensive. And
> > that's a _current_ issue, not one from the previous millennium.
> > I have no particular attachment to the 'überpackager' name, but I object
> > strongly to the change on _principle_. Please leave it as it was.
> I'll comment on this:
> I kinda agree with you on the principle of the thing.
> However, I also just plain don't like uberpackager. uber has the
> connotation of "superior" where I think the group name should be
> shooting for the meanings of "more experienced", "proven" and "trusted".
> So "ultrapackager", "superpackager", and other prefixes that mean
> "superior" would be changing the name just because we want to
> self-censor our use of the prefix "uber" due to feeling the word is
> I see changing to "masterpackager", "provenpackager", "trustedpackager",
> "experiencedpackager" as a change to be closer to what differentiates
> the group from "packager". The fact that it doesn't have the
> connotations of uber that started the discussion is an additional plus.
> Note that if tibbs is serious about the master/slave connotation, I'd be
> happy to change to "provenpackager" instead of "masterpackager" at this
> time. But once the change is made, I'd be less inclined to change since
> it would be a change just for the political correctness aspect, not to
> be closer to the true meaning of the group.
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