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[Lillian Angel]

Andrew Overholt wrote:
> * Lillian Angel <langel at redhat.com> [2008-10-31 13:08]:
>   
>> Peter Lemenkov wrote:
>>     
>>> So, since now I need to install netbeans-platform8 in order to be able
>>> to compile helloworld.java? It looks for me like one more redunant BR.
>>> Correct me if I wrong.
>>>       
>> Correct. The -devel package now includes visualvm, which depends on  
>> netbeans-platform8. We can talk about moving this out to a separate  
>> package, and adding it as a "Suggests" for the java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel  
>> package. The netbeans-platform8 package adds about 6.0M (not including  
>> the small packages it requires. ~1M in total: javahelp2 jna  
>> jpackage-utils swing-layout).
>>     
>
> So we're adding ~7 MB of requirements to a package that's ~41 MB.  It's
> a tough trade-off:  we want ease of installation ("just install this one
> package"), full functionality ("look, you also get visualvm!"), and a
> small disk footprint.  I tend towards ease of installation but that's
> 'cause I live where disks and bandwidth are relatively cheap.
>
> Does Sun release the -devel bits of the JDK without NetBeans?  
Visualvm is part of Sun's JDK (not the JRE).

> Without
> visualvm?  Do most users expect visualvm to be there if they have a JDK?
>   

AFAIK, yes.


Lillian