Getting rid of /usr for F12?

Kevin Verma kevinverma at
Fri Apr 17 07:11:29 UTC 2009

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Lennart Poettering
<mzerqung at> wrote:
> Heya,
> there's one topic that keeps popping up in various discussions: can't
> we get rid of /usr? The seperation of / and /usr doesn't make much
> sense anymore. We could make /usr a symlink to / for an interims phase
> and everything would be good for conservative folks who think the FHS
> is the holy bible.

By practice separate "/" provides a minimal system that sysadmins
trusts will work when anything in "/usr" breaks. Also a minimal
filesystem that is quick & easy to repair/restore and can even remote
mount a "/usr" if needed.

You are asking to clutter "/" , What are you really trying to solve ?
maybe you should work to settle standards for $HOME first that is the
major pain area for a non-conservative user.


> In the past more and more stuff has been moved from /usr to /. It's
> unlikely that it's going to become less. Also, right now I am aware of
> quite a few packages that don't get the seperation of / and /usr right
> and rely on stuff from /usr during early bootup.
> Let's eliminate this source of errors and clean up our file system
> layout a bit. Let's drop /usr for F12!
> And for the folks who think /usr is awesome because it allows mounting
> /usr ro while mounting / rw: it's not. Much more useful it would be if
> / in its entirety could be mounted ro. Debian allows that. It's not
> too hard to make that work on fedora as well.
> We wouldn't exactly be the first system without /usr as it seems. Hurd
> does that too as I was informed. That makes at least one thing they
> got right.
> Let the flamefest begin!
> Lennart

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