Profiling X, KDE, KWin and friends...

Ilyes Gouta ilyes.gouta at
Fri Apr 17 21:16:08 UTC 2009


I've been running Fedora on my machines since FC5 and I have a rather clear
understanding of the current situation, especially on the graphics front :)
I hope the new architecture (GEM, KMS, tiling, UXA, EXA, etc.) settles down
before F12. F11 is bringing a lot of changes hence new bugs, but we're all
here to report back and fix them, when possible.

To Adam Jackson: Thanks for the details concerning the -debuginfo packages.

Ilyes Gouta.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Basil Mohamed Gohar <
abu_hurayrah at> wrote:

> On 04/18/2009 12:00 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 22:44 +0800, Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote:
>>> Ilyes,
>>> I was having terrible problems with F10 on my 4+year-old laptop, and I
>>> am now running rawhide from a F11 Beta install, and nearly all my
>>> problems, including disk&  display performance problems, have gone
>>> away.  I hope I am not far from the truth when I say (at least as I've
>>> been told) Xorg in F10 had some issues, almost all of which are fixed in
>>> the version that is scheduled for F11.
>> I'd say you're over-simplifying. :) There were large changes in both the
>> X server itself and the various hardware drivers in F10, and there are
>> equally large (or possibly even larger) changes for F11 too. Some things
>> that were broken in F10 are fixed in F11. Some things that were broken
>> in F10 are currently still broken in F11. And a few things are broken in
>> F11 that weren't broken in F10. Obviously we're trying to make sure the
>> first group of things is as large as possible and the other two as
>> small, but please don't over-promise, it frequently leads to
>> disappointment :)
> Good points, all of them.  That's why I tried to keep the experience as
> personal as possible (e.g., "I was having...", "...all my problems...").  My
> mistake, obviously, was in stating a truth about Xorg server based on my
> limited set of experiences with it.  Duly noted.  Good job to all the devs,
> Xorg & otherwise, on F11 progress!
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