Fedora 11 nerfed my mixer

[Manuel Wolfshant]

On 04/26/2009 08:48 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:25 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
>   
>> On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 17:43 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>     
>>> Yes, there will always be missing entries in the DB. The same way as
>>> there always will be missing quirks in the kernel driver.  That's
>>> something we need to accept. But there is no need to conclude from
>>> that that it is necessary to expose the full alsa mixer all the
>>> time --
>>>       
>> Absolutely. I don't think anyone would suggest that we want to expose
>> the full alsa mixer all the time. That would be horrid. Did anyone
>> suggest that?
>>
>>     
>
> I did. But that was before I noticed that there are people who don't
> want to have full control on their sound hardware, and this still
> sounds weird to me.
>
> Maybe that's because I'm an audio oriented "minority". Who knows...
>   
I am not audio oriented, I am just a regular user who wants to be able 
to see youtube clips, listen to some classic music, use VoIP and maybe 
see a movie once in a while. And no, I could not do that using only the 
_defaults_ from F10. I had to spend 2 days reading docs from the PA's 
website, install half a dozen pav* and pa* packages and plugins, notice 
that none of them is useful and finally switch to alsamixer in order to 
be able to increase the level of the front mic (and just as in Will's 
case, I alsoneeded to really raise the global output level to a value 
which made the sound loud enough; for the first days I almost believed 
that my shiny new MB is broken because with the output maxed out via 
pavucontrol, it was barely audible. only after using alsamixer did I 
notice that there existed yet another knob which - surprise surprise - 
solved the issue)