[RFC] disable OSS sound support

[Paulo Cavalcanti]

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Bastien Nocera <bnocera at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 10:16 -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 10:22 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > > Warren Togami wrote:
> > > > 1) Keep the OSS kernel modules.
> > > > 2) alsa-plugins-pulseaudio ships /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-oss-sound,
> > > > thereby preventing loading of these kernel modules and interfering
> with
> > > > pulseaudio daemon.
> > > > 3) If the user wants to use an OSS sound application they can use
> padsp
> > > > manually.
> > > > 4) Native OSS comes back if the user uninstalls
> alsa-plugins-pulseaudio,
> > > > which also makes it so nothing uses pulseaudio for sound output.
> > >
> > > The problem with that is that they will continue saying "PulseAudio
> broke my
> > > apps". If we just remove OSS sound support entirely, they won't have a
> > > reason to blame PulseAudio anymore.
> >
> > I love that logic. And by love, I mean I really don't. PulseAudio is
> > great, but there is a use case for OSS without PA in the loop still.
>
> Where is there still a need for it? Apps that are still using OSS had
> about 8 years to switch to ALSA, why do you think they'd be doing it
> now?
>
> >  And
> > I fail to see why breaking those apps is a win - if you're that worried,
> > pop up a notification to alert the user that something else has grabbed
> > the audio device away.
>
> Which apps? And please don't tell me "internal apps that I've never seen
> actually running and that nobody told me about".
>
> OSS is dead on Linux, let's get rid of it, and see who actually cares.
> My guess is close to absolutely no one.
>
>
Skype? I use skype-static, which is the only way of having
sound on both speakers.

I think we should enumerate which applications still
use oss before killing it. Ordinary people are much more loyal
to applications than distributions.

-- 
Paulo Roma Cavalcanti
LCG - UFRJ
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