add a special Provides: to all login manager packages

Toshio Kuratomi a.badger at
Thu Feb 19 02:30:30 UTC 2009

Colin Walters wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:25 PM, seth vidal <skvidal at> wrote:
>> what has upstream gnome said about using other lm to start gnome?
> My guess is that most of them would probably agree it's worth fixing
> bugs involved in interacting with kdm.  But hostility to adding more
> to that set is likely to increase fast.
> Anyways how about this proposal as something we could likely achieve
> rough consensus on: Integrating any package which requires nontrivial
> changes in affected software[1] requires a Feature page, and that
> feature requires the rough consensus of the maintainers of the
> affected software.
> [1] I don't mean Requires: but how the software works at runtime

I'm both +1 and -1 on this.  Reading it literally I think I could agree
with it.  However, if you expect it to be able to keep new display
managers out of Fedora then there's too much subtext that I don't agree

In other words,  if I get mydm into Fedora and GNOME programs won't run
once I've logged in via it, they don't technically need to be adapted so
a literal reading could say that this doesn't apply.

OTOH, if it turns out that GNOME programs don't work because they
hardcode a requirement on a specific gnome program when another program
can and does provide that interface in mydesktop, then fixing the GNOME
programs could certainly be a Feature worth talking about.

Linux isn't about choice; but choice can be a feature.  And I think that
it's a feature that Fedora currently and in the past has promoted.  We
have KDE and xfce and lxde now.  We have a multiplicity of possible
spins.  We have yum and apt and smart.  If choice is not a feature that
we want to be a part of our future, then it has to be put to the Board
and the other contributors to decide if we will be a stronger community
with more focus but less diversity.

If it is a feature we want, then interoperability of login manager and
desktop environments is something that falls under that goal -- as
sticky as it may be to work on the problem.


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