Spins SIG Meeting Minutes 19-01-2009

[Jeroen van Meeuwen]

These are the meeting minutes for our last meeting, and as you can see 
there's lots of stuff to do still, even some of our agenda items needed 
to be moved to our mailing list or to the next meeting.

The minutes are also available on the meeting wiki page at:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_SIG_Meeting_2009-01-19

Before the week is over, you'll see some threads on our Spins SIG list ;-)

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen
-kanarip

PS: Can someone point me to the irc2html log converter?

= Meeting Minutes =

== Attendees ==

* [[User:Kanarip|Jeroen van Meeuwen]]
* [[User:Bkearney|Bryan Kearney]]
* [[User:Bruno|Bruno Wolff]]
* [[User:Poelcat|John Poelstra]]
* [[User:Notting|Bill Nottingham]]
* [[User:Nirik|Kevin Fenzi]]
* [[User:Jwb|Josh Boyer]]
* [[User:Sundaram|Rahul Sundaram]]
* [[User:Huff|David Huff]]
* [[User:Igor|Igor Pires Soares]]

== Spins Process ==

* [[User:Kanarip]]: Q&A
* bkearney: Accepted means "will be composed and released through 
Release Engineering"?
** kanarip: Accepted means it'll be handed off to Release Engineering to 
be composed and released, and get a torrent and page on 
spins.fedoraproject.org
** poelcat: If it does not fail testing
* bruno: No wiki name space described for the Spins pages
** kanarip: /Foo_Spin or SIGs/Education/Education_Live_Spin
** nirik: $name_Spin would be better as wiki hates /'s
* bkearney: If trademark is not accepted, it is not a spin?
** kanarip: then it's a "Fedora Remix", and goes back to category 
Incomplete_Spin, yes
* kanarip: Take the process up for vote now, get people to draft up the 
details and review in 2 weeks
* kanarip: Vote is: Do you agree with the process set forth in the 
Spins_Process wiki page, bearing in mind some of the details still need 
to be filled out?
** kanarip, bkearney, nirik, bruno, notting, huff, igorps, poelcat: +1
** Vote passed
* kanarip: i need 1-3 volunteers who can take on the details on the 
process, the 5 sub-items for agenda item #1
** bryan, bruno, kanarip taking on the details on Spins_Process, up for 
review and voting during our next meeting in two weeks

== Action Items ==

* Create details pages up for review in our next meeting (bkearney, 
bruno, kanarip)

== Meeting Time and Schedule ==

* kanarip: Does the current time and schedule work for most of us?
** SIG: Yes
* kanarip: Meeting time and schedule set until someone brings it up again

== Determining the Spins SIG workflow ==

* kanarip: i'd like to see a more formalized set of tasks to be 
performed by the Spins SIG and the spin maintainers, so that we know 
when to branch off GIT, what to branch, what to compose(-test), what to 
expect from spin maintainers, etc.
** huff, bruno; since the process details are not there yet, part of the 
timeline and such isn't available to formalize

== Process of recurring releases ==

* The question is whether Spins that have been approved for Fedora N-1 
need to get trademark approval again
* The question also is what to do with the Wiki pages?
** nirik: How about they have to add a page for each release, but can 
automagically pass some steps? board approval? spins sig approval?
** kanarip: poelcat and myself have thought of a way to maintain the 
same page for different releases, linking to the release-specific 
revision of that page.
** poelcat: Overview pages would have to be modified
** kanarip: Category: package are overview pages
** ianweller chimes in but since there's only 10 minutes left, we need 
to take this to the fedora-wiki mailing list

== Action Items ==

* kanarip to take the recurring releases process wiki tracking 
discussion to the fedora-wiki mailing list

== Media larger then 4GB ==

* A vote was started, but due to the time constraint it didn't pass nor fail
* kanarip suggested bruno strips the Games spin to under 4GiB for now, 
so that it is not an issue, and revisit for Beta

== Action Item ==

* kanarip to put the 4GiB limit on the Agenda for the next meeting

== Current Spins ==

* Call for volunteers to check the current spin pages and add them to 
the appropriate category is moved to mailing list.