F10 and no root login - impossible to maintain systems!

Casey Dahlin cdahlin at redhat.com
Fri Jan 23 06:00:10 UTC 2009


Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 14:01 -0500, Andrew Parker wrote:
>   
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:01 AM, Rahul Sundaram
>> <sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Never once have I felt a real need to tell people to get a root X login for
>>> any reason at all.
>>>       
>> What if /home is hosed and they need the network (WIFI) to fix it?
>> How would you get NetworkManager configured from the command line?
>> How would I get that new kernel that resolves the problem?
>>
>> What if /home is hosed, or / and /tmp are full, and system-config-lvm
>> is needed to help fix it?  Or any one of the other splendid GUIs we
>> now have that are an awful lot less error prone than doing something
>> from the command line.
>>
>> Note that I'm not necessarily in favour of allowing root logins on X
>> *by default*, its just that I don't like the argument of "I have
>> never..." being falsely extrapolated to "Nobody will ever ..."
>>     
>
> So create a user with a homedir of /tmp or some rot, that isn't on your
> network mounted /home that you can use for maint tasks.  IE a completely
> local user to use for recovery purposes.
>
>   
More to the point, NetworkManager should be a lot easier to use from the 
command line. Thank you for your suggestion, we are working on it.

And the guis are less error prone? I've always found most of 
system-config-* to be a ghetto.

--CJD




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