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[Ben Boeckel]

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Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 19:27 -0400, Doug Epling wrote:
>> Well, excuse me for my old fashioned notion that a server 
must run for
>> days, weeks, months without incident.  More and more I see a 
system
>> loaded down with GUI apps that are crashing.  I said 
crashing.
> 
> If you're running GUI apps on your server, you're probably 
doing it
> wrong. It's perfectly possible to do a completely non-X 
install of
> Fedora, and that's how I'd recommend doing things for a server 
system.

This is what I use for my server. Fedora 10 and uptime of 50 
days.

>> This never used to be a word associated with Linux, but it is 
now.
>> And what is the deal with needing to reboot after updates?  
That
>> sounds like something needs to be properly entered into the 
registry
>> -- oh wait, that is Windows.
> 
> You have to reboot on kernel updates (...duh) and udev 
updates. Possibly
> a couple of other things, but those are the big ones. I 
believe it would
> have been very difficult to architect things such that udev 
could be
> restarted without needing a reboot to ensure correct 
operation. Most
> apps just aren't coded to deal with the entire device node 
tree suddenly
> disappearing and re-appearing underneath them...
> 

I do think that bodhi should also have a flag for needs-session-
restart similar to the reboot flag. I have a ticket for it in 
bodhi trac, though I haven't heard any noise from it since I 
filed it.

- --Ben
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