F11: xorg decision to disable Ctrl-Alt-Backspace

psmith johnsmithdoe14 at googlemail.com
Sun Mar 29 21:54:10 UTC 2009


Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 01:55:13PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
>   
>> Once upon a time, Matthew Garrett <mjg at redhat.com> said:
>>     
>>> I don't know about you, but I prefer my text editors not to save to disk 
>>> on every keystroke.
>>>       
>> Stop exagerating; that's not required.  Any decent X program _should_
>> handle saving data if it loses its connection to the X server.  Killing
>> the server does not terminate all the clients without notice.  And guess
>> what, many (most?) do.  For example, if I kill X, the next time I start
>> Firefox, it asks if I want to restore my previous session (which it
>> dutifully saved away) or start a new one.
>>     
>
> Firefox does this by saving its session every time you hit a new page. 
> It's actually remarkably difficult to handle the "My X server has gone 
> away" case - traditional xlib behaviour is to just abort() your process. 
> You can do some funky stuff involving signal handlers and longjmp, but 
> by and large it's not practical to save app state when the server is 
> killed. Especially if your application isn't an X one and just happens 
> to run in a console.
>
>   
>> So far, your arguments are "I should be able to hit any random key at
>> any time and not cause any problem" and "applications are so broken they
>> can't handle an unusual condition and so need to save state at every
>> change".  Both of those are stupid.
>>     
>
> I should be able to hit a key without it having a surprising behaviour 
> that closes all my applications without any sort of confirmation, yes. 
> ctrl+alt+backspace was always a poor choice from this perspective.
>
>   
A key then yes, a three key combo then no you shouldn't, and it's hardly 
surprising behaviour to you since you seem to be doing it accidentally 
all the time, surely after the first or second time you realised that 
it's not a good idea to keep doing it. or if you don't have that good of 
a manual dexterity perhaps you should change you emacs keybindings, or 
even run an xorg.conf with the zap disabled.

again i say don't force a change on every other x user for your 
shortcommings!




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