Thunderbird bz 579023 still not fixed even though there is an upstream fix available

Ralf Corsepius rc040203 at
Fri Apr 23 09:34:56 UTC 2010

On 04/23/2010 09:24 AM, Martin Stransky wrote:
> On 04/23/2010 09:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> On 04/23/2010 09:03 AM, Martin Stransky wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> we're patching mozilla packages only for really critical issues because
>>> of mozilla trademarks. We can't put any patch we want to the mozilla
>>> package and ship it as 'Firefox' or 'Thunderbird'.
>> Thanks for providing evidence of how trademarks are being applied to
>> void the benefits of "open source".
>> The obvious logical consequences of what you say would be
>> * either to remove the packages you are referring to from Fedora because
>> they are effectively unmaintainable.
>> * or to remove the trademarks and re-brand the packages.
>> /me ducks and hides for cover.
> No, you get it wrong.

Well, c.f. freedom 3 on

You told us, you can't modify the sources and ship modified binaries
=> thunderbird and firefox are non-free, because of the trademarks 
Mozilla apply.

=> These packages should not be part of Fedora.

 > It's about cooperation, we work with upstream to
> release one valid product. See the upstream bug, the fix may be included
> in next security update.

You are confusing their product with yours: Your product is broken and 
you are unable to maintain it because of legal reasons.


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