The slip down memory lane
Jesse Keating
jkeating at redhat.com
Fri Aug 13 05:23:29 UTC 2010
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On 08/12/2010 12:33 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Thu, 12.08.10 13:19, Mike McGrath (mmcgrath at redhat.com) wrote:
>
>> Since 2006 I counted 18 slips (I think one or two of those may just be a
>> single slip listed twice). Lets not yell, lets not flame war, lets not
>> point fingers. How can we fix this? It's clearly not one group or one
>> individual or we'd just go talk to them. This is a collective failure.
>>
>> Since 2006 we've slipped at least 16-18 weeks by my count. That's more
>> than half of a full release cycle.
>
> While I side with mclasen here and believe that it is a strength of
> Fedora that we take the liberty to let cycles slip rather then
> compromise quality, I want to mention one thing: on opensuse the "base"
> system has a different schedule then the rest of the OS. i.e. the
> kernel, gcc, glibc and the low-level tools freeze first, while
> everything else may be hacked on a couple of weeks more. Maybe that's
> something to adopt for Fedora as well?
>
> Lennart
>
Well we have the critical path set of packages, however I'm not sure how
we can enforce a freeze on those packages before a "freeze" on all the
other packages (ie forcing everything through bodhi like we do at the
branch)
We can ask and say pretty please, but I suspect as long as the
buildsystem allows it, crap will still crash land at the last possible
moment.
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Jesse Keating
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