systemd and changes

Lennart Poettering mzerqung at 0pointer.de
Mon Aug 23 22:39:27 UTC 2010


On Mon, 23.08.10 17:04, Mike McGrath (mmcgrath at redhat.com) wrote:

> > I am not sure what your problem with me or systemd is, but I'd prefer
> > you dropped those personal attacks, or at least if you call me a
> > pretender point me to where I supposedly "pretended" something.
> >
> > Also, given how "horrible" your experience was: you haven't file a
> > single bug against systemd. Ever.
> >
> 
> Because the bugs were so obvious that others filed them?

Hmm, can't find you among any CC's of those bugs either, or am I blind?

> > What you are doing is fudding, stop that.
> >
> > Be more constructive. I am very open to suggestions on systemd, and I
> > have responded to all bugs coming up in this matter very quickly. If
> > you cannot appreciate that then at least please don't constantly
> > interfere. Thank you.
> >
> 
> No you're not, you fight change at every turn and have completely
> dismissed my concerns and Matt's concerns as "funny".  I have nothing more
> to say to you on this or on Pulseaudio except to hope that systemd is as
> easy to uninstall.  Do what you want.  No one seems to be able to steer
> this Fedora boat so do whatever you want.

Note that Matthew did acknowledge that I quickly reacted to his requests
and iirc I implemented all his requests in the shutdown situation in
less than 24h, and in the other cases it wasn't much different.

I figured the problem people had with systemd was that it was too much
change, not too little. But you seem to believe otherwise, yay?

Let me clarify that the "funny" comment just referred to the quotes
Matthew used, which turned out to be unrelated to the point he was
actually trying to make.

Lennart

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