fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 15:56 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 01:26:27PM -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>> > Maybe I was too long winded, or failed to communicate my point: a
>> > stable (bug fix only updates, slow feature release), strongly FOSS,
>> > strongly upstream seems to be what some (I am not going to make
>> > assumptions about numbers) want. I see two problems with this:
>>
>> Where, keep in mind, "slow" is defined as twice a year, right?
>>
>> > 1) the nature of such a distro would make it attractive to a smaller
>> > percentage of the Linux community
>>
>> Do you have a basis for this claim? I think it's the opposite.
>>
>> > 2) the only aspect of that that would be unique is the commitment to
>> > upstream -- something which will be appreciated by few
>>
>> I don't think that's fair at all. Fedora is unique in a lot of ways, and a
>> waterfall of updates isn't essential to that uniqueness.
>
> Arthur's idea was better expressed in his original mail. His point was
> that a Fedora aiming at the niche described (by Jesse) would differ from
> Ubuntu solely in its more rigorous interpretation of 'freedom' and its
> attention to upstream, which experience seems to show are not things the
> majority of people who go for the Ubuntu niche care much about. I think
> this is a pretty reasonable thesis - note how popular non-free software
> is with Ubuntu users, how many people use Mint (which is essentially
> Ubuntu with even more non-free stuff added), and how few people use/used
> the more-strictly-free Ubuntu variations that have existed.
>
> As he put it, "I am suggesting that the mission you would like is
> contradictory: not that it cannot happen, but in that it represents an
> intersection of people that is very small." The niche described is a
> kind of mix of attributes that appeal to entirely different types of
> users/contributors.


Exactly, the key idea is "The niche described is a kind of mix of
attributes that appeal to entirely different types of
users/contributors".

It is an admirable goal to push for, even it it may nto reflect my own
desires. However, I believe that it may be analogous to selling vegan
dishes at a butcher shop.

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