Proposed package blocking due to FTBFS

[Matt Domsch]

On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 12:01:39PM +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 00:50 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 01:05 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > 
> > > And I'll go back to fixing actual bugs encountered by people instead of
> > > random bot-driven bugs.
> > 
> > every abrt report, ever, is an actual bug encountered by an actual
> > person. They have to be sufficiently narked about the app crashing (and
> > it really must have crashed) to click through a rather convoluted
> > process (the first time, anyway) to send in a report.
> 
> Given the time it takes triage them, compared to how long it takes to
> file them, I'm not sure it's a win for us.
> 
> > so are all these bugs, for that matter: they're actual bugs encountered
> > by Matt. The package failing to build is clearly a bug. Matt tried to
> > build it and so encountered the bug. Where does it fail to meet your
> > criteria?
> 
> It's a file'n'dump bug. There's no one that actually looked at the bugs
> to try and analyse them, nobody to offer a reminder in the bugs (they
> were filed and left untouched).
> 
> > I agree it's a bit questionable whether we should block packages for
> > FTBFS, but the argument can clearly be made; being self-hosting is
> > obviously important for an F/OSS project. At some point it devolves into
> > Stallmanite wankery about whether you can flash your mouse, but where
> > exactly we should draw the line isn't a slam-dunk :)
> 
> I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. The signal to noise
> ratio in the RH bugzilla is far too low to be anything useful, and
> piling another bug on top of other bugs, with no reminder apart from
> this mail is rude.

I'm confused.  You want reminders filed in the bugs, but then you say
the S-to-N ratio is to low to be useful.

I could add automatic reminders in bugzilla, but I don't think that
solves your key concern.

The packages I posted last night were since F12 only.  Personally, I'd
like to see all FTBFS since even F14 fixed (they all have bugs filed).

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Matt Domsch
Technology Strategist
Dell | Office of the CTO