Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

[Toshio Kuratomi]

On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 07:56:53PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> >On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 04:16:30PM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Not to reduce the debate to too much of a soundbite, but it almost
> >> > > seems like attempting to decide whether we want Fedora to be Debian,
> >> > > or to be something useful for users of it. I'd always pick the latter...
> >> > >
> >> > The problem with this sound bite is that Fedora Project and Fedora product
> >> > get mixed up.  Users use a Fedora product.  The Fedora Project attracts the
> >> > contributors who make various Fedora products.  You can't continue to be an
> >> > attractive place for people wanting to experiment with creating different
> >> > visions that don't necessarily appeal to the target audience if they're
> >> > always going to be a second class citizen.
> >> >
> >> 
> >> These are 3 if's and they're impossible to say for sure right now but over
> >> time we'll know:
> >> 
> >> If we don't have a coherent vision for what our products are and who they
> >> are for..
> >> 
> >Let's cut this off right at the top :-)  If a vision for what our products
> >are is a problem why don't we have the people producing the products explain
> >their vision?  I keep saying that vision for products needs to come from the
> >people producing those products, not from the Board or FESCo.
> >
> >I agree with things like Robin's statement of how having a target audience
> >helps to market a product.  What I think is wrong is to have the Fedora Board
> >define the target audience that then constrains all of the products that
> >Fedora produces.
> 
> What?  No.  The Board has defined a default spin, and is working on a target
> audience for the default Spin.  The Board has explicitly declared that SPINS
> are ALLOWED to define their OWN target audience.
> 
Does the Board create the default Spin?  No?   So why shouldn't the Board
just ask the people who create the spin to clearly state their target
audience?

-Toshio
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