Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?

Jesse Keating jkeating at
Wed Feb 3 22:35:03 UTC 2010

On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 16:25 -0600, inode0 wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Jesse Keating <jkeating at> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 12:54 -0600, inode0 wrote:
> >>
> >> I believe that what fundamentally makes the Fedora Project a great
> >> place to be is that it is an open community where the participants
> >> share a group of core values that guide them both individually and
> >> collectively toward an unwritten end that is worth pursuing
> >
> > Perhaps the problem is we don't all agree on those core sets of values,
> > or how those values should guide us to what unwritten end.  Or we
> > suspect we don't agree because so much of it is unwritten.
> We are about to fall off the edge of the philosophical cliff now. I
> really don't analyze how my values guide my actions. I approach the
> check-out counter behind a little old lady. I could speed up and cut
> in front of her, I could slow down and let her go first. I make a
> decision which I believe is formed in large part by my values without
> thinking about them.
> > If the assumption is that we all share these values, what are they?  The
> > four F's?  Those are just vague enough to be practically meaningless in
> > this context.
> Enumerating the values with surgical precision is meaningless too if
> you want it to lead to an idea of what the Fedora distribution will
> look like in 5 years. It just doesn't work that way.
> John

Since we can't act as a single hive mind, we have to come to some sort
of agreement, and to do so, we need guidelines rather than "whatever I
feel like today".  You seem to be sidestepping any point that has to do
with a conflict within the project.

Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!
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