concept of package "ownership"

[Patrice Dumas]

On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 02:23:43PM +0200, Peter Czanik wrote:
> 2010-07-02 03:18 keltezéssel, Kevin Kofler írta:
> >
> > I think we need to get rid of the concept of ownership entirely, that'd also 
> > make orphaned or de-facto orphaned packages less of a problem. You see a 
> > problem, you fix it. Who cares whether the package has an active maintainer 
> > or not?

That's very much against the fedora policies.

> I'd like to get syslog-ng updated to the latest version in Rawhide (I
> work part time for the upstream developer and I'm also an occasional
> Fedora user). I contacted the package owner, no response. Created a
> bugreport to get it updated (
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598961 ), and also provided
> an updated package, which compiles and works fine on Fedora 12, 13 and
> Rawhide. After waiting for weeks, I started a maintainer time out. It
> was closed within an hour. 

Indeed. Maintainer time out are for completly missing maintainers, not
to force them to apply a change.

> Obviously I'm not a proven packager to
> update the package myself, as I'm not a Fedora developer. 

Even if you were a provenpackager you would be forbidden from doing that.
Provenpackagers right to modify other people packages are far from
being that large. Have a look at the relevant policy if you want more
information.

> I worked a lot
> to update and test the package, but still I'm stuck. And as you can see,
> the maintainer timeout procedure does not help either...

And the provenpackager policy wouldn't help either.


In the past we proposed a policy for that kind of issues with Rahul, 
but it was never approved (nor really considered).

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RahulSundaram/CollectiveMaintenance


The only thing that can be done, right now for such issues is the 
traditional escalation procedure. I don't know if it is documented
anywhere, but it is along

* make yourself clear in a bugreport (which is already done)
* explain the issue on the devel list (guess you already did that)
* escalate to FESCo

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Pat